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Activision stealing ideas without compensation?

Posted on Thursday, 3 June 2010 by L0k1-, source: Activision
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Yesterday Activision launched a contest in which indie developers could share their ideas with them. But if you read through the official rules, you stumble on the following:

In order to be a Finalist, entrant must sign certain Submission documentation provided by Sponsor, which may include some or all of the following: release of claims against Sponsor; acknowledgement of Sponsor's development of game concepts that may be similar to entrant's Submission; first right of refusal to Sponsor for any development or publishing of submission; agreement to provide Sponsor with splash/title/credits and logo credit similar to "funded in part by the Activision Independent Games Competition Prize 2010"; grant of name and likeness publicity rights to Sponsor; and full representations and warranties regarding the IP ownership of the Submission.
This might be standard with such contest, but as an indie developers it will be quite hard to see one of your ideas making millions of euros, while you don't get anything... I would think twice before sharing my innovative ideas with them ;)
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Anonymous

Anonymous

I'm not sure I understand how your headline matches the quote from the rules. First, the text states "which may include some or all of the following" -- so none of those possibilities is a certainty. Second, in interviews, Activision's Laird Malamed has stated that the IP doesn't change hands unless a) they win and b) the game is something they would want to publish. I'm quoting:

"If we do a publishing deal, then IP ownership is discussed [...] For anything else that is submitted or doesn?t win, they keep their IP."

You can read that interview here:
www.industrygamers.com/news/activision-talks-independent-games-competition/2/

I think your allegation that Activision is stealing ideas is irresponsible journalism at best and libel at worst.
I'm not sure I understand how your headline matches the quote from the rules. First, the text states "which may include some or all of the following" -- so none of those possibilities is a certainty. Second, in interviews, Activision's Laird Malamed has stated that the IP doesn't change hands unless a) they win and b) the game is something they would want to publish. I'm quoting: "If we do a publishing deal, then IP ownership is discussed [...] For anything else that is submitted or doesn?t win, they keep their IP." You can read that interview here: http://www.industrygamers.com/news/activision-talks-independent-games-competition/2/ I think your allegation that Activision is stealing ideas is irresponsible journalism at best and libel at worst.
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Posted on 19:16, June 03rd 2010
Speed

Speed

I agree with your point. But still the clause gives Activision the possibility to have a good look at the entries and create something similar without having to pay for the IP. Even if this isn't the case, it opens a window for future lawsuits.
I agree with your point. But still the clause gives Activision the possibility to have a good look at the entries and create something similar without having to pay for the IP. Even if this isn't the case, it opens a window for future lawsuits.
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Posted on 21:48, June 03rd 2010
Anonymous

Anonymous

"so none of those possibilities is a certainty"
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Yeh, as in "I may not steal your content, but I have every right to if it is going to provide profits"... A company of this stature could easily give away 1% of their profits as compensation for use of an idea and the dev would be happy.

Also, the title was a question to invoke response, not a statement of fact.
"so none of those possibilities is a certainty" --- Yeh, as in "I may not steal your content, but I have every right to if it is going to provide profits"... A company of this stature could easily give away 1% of their profits as compensation for use of an idea and the dev would be happy. Also, the title was a question to invoke response, not a statement of fact.
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Posted on 22:26, June 03rd 2010
Anonymous

Anonymous

Speed:
I agree with your point. But still the clause gives Activision the possibility to have a good look at the entries and create something similar without having to pay for the IP. Even if this isn't the case, it opens a window for future lawsuits.


Actually, this is also not a cause for concern, as it was further explained in an audio interview -- the judging is done by independent judges and is blind, meaning Activision does not see the entries until the judges have selected the finalists. As it was explained, they won't have access to all those entries for exactly the reason you cite, so nobody will accuse them of ripping them off.

I see your point, though. Just like an indie dev would want to protect itself from Activision ripping off its idea, Activision also seeks protection in the rules to suggest that, you know, that small team working in a garage did not invent the first-person shooter and can't turn around and say "we submitted a shooting game and now you're bringing out a shooting game." Your ideas can't invalidate theirs, and vice versa.

Meanwhile, fellow anonymous, If the title was intended to evoke a response, you did -- it made someone question your journalistic integrity.
[quote][b]Speed:[/b] I agree with your point. But still the clause gives Activision the possibility to have a good look at the entries and create something similar without having to pay for the IP. Even if this isn't the case, it opens a window for future lawsuits.[/quote] Actually, this is also not a cause for concern, as it was further explained in an audio interview -- the judging is done by independent judges and is blind, meaning Activision does not see the entries until the judges have selected the finalists. As it was explained, they won't have access to all those entries for exactly the reason you cite, so nobody will accuse them of ripping them off. I see your point, though. Just like an indie dev would want to protect itself from Activision ripping off its idea, Activision also seeks protection in the rules to suggest that, you know, that small team working in a garage did not invent the first-person shooter and can't turn around and say "we submitted a shooting game and now you're bringing out a shooting game." Your ideas can't invalidate theirs, and vice versa. Meanwhile, fellow anonymous, If the title was intended to evoke a response, you did -- it made someone question your journalistic integrity.
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Posted on 00:38, June 04th 2010
Speed

Speed

Meanwhile, fellow anonymous, If the title was intended to evoke a response, you did -- it made someone question your journalistic integrity

I find you're a bit harsh here. The source of the post is the official contest and based on that the editor made a post that may be a bit too provocative but it's his right to question official information.

Questioning journalistic integrity: ouch, way over the top! His journalistic integrity could be questioned IF he had read the interview and still knowingly questioned the content of the contest. Did he do that? No he didn't.

So if you want to accuse him of something, it's that he didn't check up on info enough before making the post. That I can agree with :)
[quote]Meanwhile, fellow anonymous, If the title was intended to evoke a response, you did -- it made someone question your journalistic integrity[/quote] I find you're a bit harsh here. The source of the post is the official contest and based on that the editor made a post that may be a bit too provocative but it's his right to question official information. Questioning journalistic integrity: ouch, way over the top! His journalistic integrity could be questioned IF he had read the interview and still knowingly questioned the content of the contest. Did he do that? No he didn't. So if you want to accuse him of something, it's that he didn't check up on info enough before making the post. That I can agree with :)
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Posted on 07:13, June 04th 2010
 

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