It all looks very nice but who gives a shit about the single player, we all know that is going to look great.

I want to see multiplayer and what that looks like, the first GRAW was stunning in single player but the multiplayer was nothing like the single player, i want co-op for the entire single player game and i want the multiplayer to look identical and play and control identical to the single player.

Theres no excuse for it now with GOW doing it and looking a hell of a lot better not that there was an excuse for the first GRAW feeling like two different games.

You can only play Gears with 8 players, GRAW offered 16, had waaaay better MP modes and was released 6 months earlier...

And it featured co-op, though, admittedly, not as good as GoW's.

thats a matter of opinion , graws multiplayer was the same as ghost recon 2 just with slightly updated graphics and also suffered with the same lobby problems as gears of war , and the co-op was shocking at least ghost recon 2 was the same as the story mode . and 16 players on multiplayer don't make a better multiplayer experiance

16 players don't make better experience? Are you nuts? The more you are able to play against and test your skills, especially with larger maps like Rocky Cove, the better the gameplay is.

personally id rather play 4 v 4 an smaller maps than 8v8 you feel more a part of the team , the most played game types on halo were 4v4 but its all personal opinion

graw did have alot of problems on the multiplayer side, seemed to be a lack in planning from the project management team. issues were resolved with quick bandaid solutions that didn't really help, but its understandable, it isn't in maintaining and fixing old games, its about pumping out new ones and making money. Just playing R6:Vegas for a couple weeks and trying GRAW again, I have a hard time with GRAW, shitty gameplay, unrealistic, bad accuracy, sloppy player movement.

JM