[quote]To be dead honest with you, I really doubt there will be a PS4. It would take Sony's bad management at least 10 years to organise and make one, and given their losses with the PS3, I don't think their shareholders would approve Sony staying in the console market, they're not exactly doing amazingly well in their other markets either, so they can't keep supporting the console wars with revenues from other industries.[/quote] Very true, Sony Corp just doesn't have the cash themselves nor credit with the shareholders

Actually, with PS2, Sony was funding their other parts of the business with the console department. Don't see that happening with PS3 just yet.

Ill tell you why Blue Ray is needed: "640K ought to be enough for anybody." Bill Gates, 1981 And since the PS4 isn't due in 2 years, for a long lifetime Blue Ray is necessary! Also by the time the full potential of the PS3 is 'unlocked' by developers, the storage size of a blue ray disc will barely be sufficient (perhaps even 2 discs are needed). From a game developers perspective the high price of this game means less PS3 sales resulting in equally less game sales. It makes more sense to develop for the PS2 at the moment than for the PS3. Mr. Jaffe, whom ofcourse is used to a large PS2 userbase (more $$$) must now be spending more time and energy to develop for the PS3 for much less expected $$$. Hence his criticism ( 'i dont agree' buhu) Sure the PS3 is currently aimed at the upper market and loyal (former) PS2'ers. resulting in low sales.But remember that this is just a slow starting locomotive which will eventually (hopefully soon) race past its competition.

You had me thinking you had a point there until i read the last bit where you say you hope it will overtake the competition, obviously just another Sony fanboy twat like D.R.

lo these noobs are in love with me : P

to fill a blueray disk with just game code would take a zillion yrs cant see programmers sitting at there desks for 10 yrs tryin to fill one its just not worth it i mean look at hl2 it filled a dvd plus bit more on steam,the game took bout 5yrs blueray is just a way in sonys pea brain to sell blueray dvds and players trying to push out hd-dvd there arrogance is unbelievable.well there paying for there dumb decisions now

[quote]to fill a blueray disk with just game code would take a zillion yrs cant see programmers sitting at there desks for 10 yrs tryin to fill one its just not worth it i mean look at hl2 it filled a dvd plus bit more on steam,the game took bout 5yrs blueray is just a way in sonys pea brain to sell blueray dvds and players trying to push out hd-dvd there arrogance is unbelievable.well there paying for there dumb decisions now[/quote] Since it wouldn't be code, but high-end graphics that would take up increasingly more (and already have) space in games, sony does have a point, that in the future 50 gig disks will be needed. They went wrong when they thought that the future would be within 5 years. I reckon at the least 10 years before 50 gig games come out. Oh and to the anon poster quoting bill gates. I hope you have realised that lately the trend with increased storage space has provided people with 300+ gig drives at realtively cheap, but honestly, what normal PC user needs even 100 gigs of space? I use my PC A LOT and I still have trouble getting past 200gigs before some virus corrupts half my data and I reformat one of my partitions. Available space != required space.

[quote]You had me thinking you had a point there until i read the last bit where you say you hope it will overtake the competition, obviously just another Sony fanboy twat like D.R.[/quote] lol, yeah I was writing it and then I lost track of what I wanted to say, so there you go: cheesy ending :) @derf: 1.44 MB Floppy -> 100 MB Zip Disk-> 700 MB CD -> 4.7GB DVD -> next step would be around 35 GB close to blue ray which can hold up about 25 GB per layer (HD-DVD can hold up to 17 GB per layer).

hop off.

graphics is code u muppet

[quote]graphics is code u muppet[/quote] Definition of Code: "In computer programming, the word code refers to instructions to a computer in a programming language. In this usage, the noun "code" typically stands for source code, and the verb "to code" means to write source code, to program. This usage may have originated when the first symbolic languages were developed and were punched onto cards as "codes"." From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_(computer_programming) So stfu muppet, code is the programming itself. Graphics are things like texture files and animated movement. Faceless pokefuck.

Kojima for one has said there'll be very little space left on a BlueRay disk after all the high def textures and audio in MGS4 are added. Then again... all this data could be another load of excruciatingly long cut scenes :-/ But I'm sure even Jaffe himself will push the BlueRay to its limits now that he has little choice but to use it.