In a word: Bush

[quote]In a word: Bush[/quote] It's not Bush, it's the people that stand behind him. The illegal federal reserve. The illegal income tax, the military industrial complex's influence, the ignorance vote, the mainstream media in the hands of the puppeteers that got Bush elected and then exploited the 9/11 situation to start two unjust wars with countries in no way involved in the act. The problem with America is that their people are ready to sacrifice too much freedom for very little security, and Benjamin Franklin once said that: "Those who would sacrifice freedom for temporary security deserve neither."

[quote][quote]In a word: Bush[/quote] It's not Bush, it's the people that stand behind him. The illegal federal reserve. The illegal income tax, the military industrial complex's influence, the ignorance vote, the mainstream media in the hands of the puppeteers that got Bush elected and then exploited the 9/11 situation to start two unjust wars with countries in no way involved in the act. The problem with America is that their people are ready to sacrifice too much freedom for very little security, and Benjamin Franklin once said that: "Those who would sacrifice freedom for temporary security deserve neither."[/quote] I know you dont live in the US and I don't disagree with you. But I think its more then that. This country is so fucked right now its not even funny, the first step to putting us in the right direction would be to get rid of Bush and Cheney as soon as possible. In fact if you go around asking US citizens today most would favor the impeachment of both of them. Bush continues to break laws on a daily basis, I have a strong feeling hes involved with at least 3 major legal scandals any one of those are grounds for impeachment. Cheney basically giving military contracts to the companies of his choice, one of which he used to work for. FOX news the ultimate republican spin machine, feeding the general population lies. There are literally countless examples of the corrupt political powers and not much is being done. There is a weak democratic majority thats been pursuing a few of these matters, but its not actually getting anywhere. IMO either this country goes into a revolt in a few years or we get stuck living in a V for Vendetta world without the fancy accents. If things keep going the way they are I do plan on leaving the country, its really just too much bullshit. Edit: I wonder if thats too long for the GTA radio XD

The problem isn;t Bush and Cheney, as I've said. They're just puppets. The fact is, removing them will simply put others with similar ideas in place. Since you feel strongly about this, I recommend you go and investigate Ron Paul. He's the only non-conformist candidate of either party. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGGOiv7sA4w

I think Ninjafish is from the US so i take him for hiss word :)

[quote]I think Ninjafish is from the US so i take him for hiss word :)[/quote] Yeh, he probably sees the situation more clearly. On the other hand, being from a country like the US where not just Fox News, but literally all the media is feeding you bullshit on a daily basis, I think i'd rather be sitting in Europe (not looking at BBC, Euronews or any of these mass media channels either). Un-censored internet combined with the ability to know what to look for and to be able to discard bullshit is of prime importance. Of course, there are bills in the planning and discussions of censoring the internet now too.

Where Ninja leaves 10 illegal aliens will take his place.

[quote]The problem isn;t Bush and Cheney, as I've said. They're just puppets. The fact is, removing them will simply put others with similar ideas in place. Since you feel strongly about this, I recommend you go and investigate Ron Paul. He's the only non-conformist candidate of either party. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGGOiv7sA4w[/quote] I already know about Ron Paul and although he seems like he could be a good candidate, I dont agree with a good number of his views. IE: Hes strongly opposed to net neutrality, anyone who knows anything about the internet knows that net neutrality is for the best of the general population. Usually those opposed to net neutrality don't understand how the internet works or are being supported by a corporation who benefits a non neutral internet. Either way that a problem for me. In this day and age where we are completely immersed in technology its important to have a president who atleast understands the basics. if his position on Net Neutrality is based off ignorance then it shows that hes willing to make a decision on something without actually knowing what the issue is (similar to how bush proposed the Iraq war). If his his position is based on supporting the corporation giving him money, then thats worst. There really aren't any other reasons for opposing net neutrality. Also hes against Federal Student loans which almost everyone who ever goes to college will need, most people cant afford to pay it straight out of their pocket and I know I sure as hell can't. Any candidate with half a brain knows that a strong majority of the US doesn't want to continue the war in Iraq and certainly doesn't want to start a war in Iran so most of them already agree saying that they would pull out ect. So I use smaller issues like these as red flags to see what a candidate really represents. As for Bush/Cheney impeachment, I never said this would solve all our problems but its a start.

[quote] IE: Hes strongly opposed to net neutrality, anyone who knows anything about the internet knows that net neutrality is for the best of the general population. Usually those opposed to net neutrality don't understand how the internet works or are being supported by a corporation who benefits a non neutral internet. Either way that a problem for me. In this day and age where we are completely immersed in technology its important to have a president who atleast understands the basics. if his position on Net Neutrality is based off ignorance then it shows that hes willing to make a decision on something without actually knowing what the issue is (similar to how bush proposed the Iraq war). If his his position is based on supporting the corporation giving him money, then thats worst. There really aren't any other reasons for opposing net neutrality. [/QUOTE] That's completely wrong! He's absolutely for letting the internet be as it is, without any interference. I mean, most of his support comes from young people online, no way would he be against that. Moreover, he can't possibly be supported (and isn't) by any corporations or influential people because the first thing he would do when he comes to power is put 75% of the government officials out of a job, and hence he's against the oil companies, the military industrial complex, etc. [QUOTE] Also hes against Federal Student loans which almost everyone who ever goes to college will need, most people cant afford to pay it straight out of their pocket and I know I sure as hell can't. [/QUOTE] That's a fair point, until you realise what he's actually doing. He's reducing government spending everywhere, and hence with grants too, but he's also (iirc) going to try and reduce tuition fees for universities. I mean, 40k a year? That's insane. In the UK it's 6k (dollars) a year with government funding, and even without it's still around the 10-15k mark. If he reduces the prices to the 10-15k mark, then you'll be able to simply take out a loan if your parents haven't saved up for your college fees. [QUOTE]Any candidate with half a brain knows that a strong majority of the US doesn't want to continue the war in Iraq and certainly doesn't want to start a war in Iran so most of them already agree saying that they would pull out ect. So I use smaller issues like these as red flags to see what a candidate really represents. [/QUOTE] The whole point was that he voted against the Iraq war back in 2001/2002. He was the only Republican, and almost the only Democrat. Hillary, as an example, and in fact all of the front runners in both parties voted for the war. Likewise, most of them voted for the telephone spying. Most voted for the national ID. He voted against all of these at the outset. NOT once it was blatantly obvious of the mistake. If you think about it, 9/11 was the perfect event that allowed Bush and Cheney to become dictators, and do whatever the hell they wanted, passing insane, fascist and unconstitutional laws and starting undeclared wars. Ron Paul was the only one who didn't exploit the situation at the very outset, saying that Iraq had nothing to do with it. [QUOTE] As for Bush/Cheney impeachment, I never said this would solve all our problems but its a start.[/quote] It's a start yes, but it won't solve ANY of your problems. The fact is, that when the political elite realise that they can't be outright fascist and break the law with their puppet president, they'll just do it in more subtle ways so that it's harder to catch on. But nothing will change, it never does when you get rid of the puppets.

very well put the lot of u,i was sitting here thinkin the brain washing was working but seems a lot of americans r pretty smart..:) but while the american justice system has no nuts... nothing is likely to change theyll just change there tactics to make it seem like stuffs being dont about when in fact sweet fa ,and while israel is doing pretty much as it likes to the palestinians there will nvr b peace for most of the planet

The problem with letting the internet stay "as it is" is that the corporations are the ones who are pursuing anti-net neutrality business. The problem at hand, is that if left unregulated, big ISPs are going to start controlling the bandwidth available to most sites. So in reality, doing nothing would be allowing the ISP's to change it, while introducing a net neutrality law, would keep it the way it is now. As for the student loans, while that does sound nice, lowering the cost to something reasonable, it'll never happen. Even if he did become president, universities are used to taking in so much money and are so dependent on it that theres no way they would go from 40k to 10k without substantially increasing taxes for something. His voting record is very good, the fact that hes so strongly opposed to the patriot act and the war in the middle east makes me want to forget about some of the other issues we don't agree on. Those two points alone are golden. I know I give off the impression that I don't like Ron Paul, thats not the case. Its because he does seem like an excellent candidate and the kind of president the US would need to get back on the right track that I'm so critical of him. The only problem is that its very unlikely that he will win. A large majority of the population doesn't even know who he is yet, and because he doesn't support corporations most of the big media heads are unlikely to give him any more air time then necessary. Our presidential system is currently broken, for some reason the quality of a candidate is measured in how much money they raise, which is actually backwards if you think about it. Because a majority of those "donating money" are corporations who expect a return on their investment. Regardless of Presidential candidates, I still think Bush/Cheney should still be impeached. I know they've done their damage and I'm sure that they get all their orders from a faceless evil overlord, but right now they are on a spree of fucking up our country and theres absolutely no accountability. They know the country hates them and that they don't have much time left in office so their racing to put into place as much BS as possible. They recently made an announcement that they intend to act on Iran as soon as possible because "They don't trust the next administration to do what needs to be done". You know their full of shit when they justify their current actions by blaming the next administration when they don't even know who would run it or how it would operate. Even if you think of them as puppets, cutting off the hands of the puppeteer would prevent him from doing more damage.