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US customs harass E3 colleagues

Posted on Friday, 23 May 2003 by DoubleD, source: Fragland
Some very disturbing news for all peaceful people and for those of you out there who hope to attend E3 in the near future.

We all know about the terrible things that have happened in New York, now nearly two years ago. Most of the sane world also recognises the atrocities that have happened in the aftermath, primarily caused by the US-led 'coallition forces'.

The US has enough reasons to be scared, but how they handle this fear is just insane.

Six french colleague journalists were detained on arrival at the Los Angeles airport, severely harassed without any reason and then sent back to France.
Reporters Without Borders today protested against the detention of six French journalists on arrival a week ago at Los Angeles international airport to cover a video games trade show and their forcible repatriation after being held at the airport for more than 24 hours.

They were subjected to interrogation sessions and six body searches. They were handcuffed while being moved from one place to another, and they were fingerprinted.
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After being held for nine hours in an airport waiting room they were taken to a US immigration detention centre where they were held overnight in a cell. They were subjected to repeated body searches and interrogation. They were handcuffed when taken from one place to another, and they were fingerprinted. Finally, they were put on a flight back to France at around 6 p.m. the next day.
And what's more :
They arrived at Los Angeles international airport at around 3 p.m. on 11 May.
This was the EXACT SAME FLIGHT on which t2O, CoBraLorD and myself arrived !!! Luckily we were smart enough to write down and answer 'tourism' as our sole reason for visiting the United States. And we too arrived with a big tripod and a large camera-bag so they couldn't (or shouldn't) have missed those.

Or were we just lucky to have Belgian passports ? Were the 'true American patriots' of Customs and Immigration taking a bit of revenge on French journalists for their critical opinion on the US foreign policy ?

Feel free to comment.

The whole article can -and MUST- be read right here.

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8 Comment(s)

Shivers6

Shivers6

Well I am not going to claim i know everything.ok so who does. but i dont think that they were being harrassed becouse they were french, I am sure customs had good reason to do what they did, as i dont see any charges being held, well not yet anyway. but if they would not have gotten them and they were a bunch of terraists and they blew up e3 convention then customs would again be the brunt of all the critisism. as WHY DIDNT THEY DO SOMETHING? why didnt customs catch them? why isnt the goverment doing anything about this, this is tragic. bla bla. i think after 3000 + people are killed becouse of airplanes crashing through thier window and a full fledge war, and war against treeroism i think we should be a little jumpy! as we are in orange alert again. Anyway i think that everyone goes to far and points the finger way to quick. if they had a valid reason to do what they did then fine. i would rather see some camera men (french or whatever nationality) be ruffed up and a bit inconvienianced , then to see E3 blown into little computer bits. wouldnt you? give customs a break! everyone has a job to do.
Well I am not going to claim i know everything.ok so who does. but i dont think that they were being harrassed becouse they were french, I am sure customs had good reason to do what they did, as i dont see any charges being held, well not yet anyway. but if they would not have gotten them and they were a bunch of terraists and they blew up e3 convention then customs would again be the brunt of all the critisism. as WHY DIDNT THEY DO SOMETHING? why didnt customs catch them? why isnt the goverment doing anything about this, this is tragic. bla bla. i think after 3000 + people are killed becouse of airplanes crashing through thier window and a full fledge war, and war against treeroism i think we should be a little jumpy! as we are in orange alert again. Anyway i think that everyone goes to far and points the finger way to quick. if they had a valid reason to do what they did then fine. i would rather see some camera men (french or whatever nationality) be ruffed up and a bit inconvienianced , then to see E3 blown into little computer bits. wouldnt you? give customs a break! everyone has a job to do.
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Posted on 00:27, May 24th 2003
DoubleD

DoubleD

I'm willing to agree with you to some extent.

But lets not generalise here:

- These guys were French citizens and I cannot and will not believe that all 6 of them happened to be extreme muslim fundamentalists -> in that case they wouldn't be released anyway.

- we had to take of our shoes to pass through security. And we didn't mind. But hiding a bomb up your arse ? Come on...
And journalists make their money with their jobs, not by smuggling petty amounts of drugs.

- why were they sent back ? Customs did a 'thorough' search on (and 'in') them. Did they 'find' a reason to repatriate all 6 of them ?

- why weren't the customs people 'jumpy' towards the rest of the journalists on those flights (e.g. myself and my 2 colleagues) ?

Were they 'just doing their job' ?
Come on... who are we kidding ?
I'm willing to agree with you to some extent. But lets not generalise here: - These guys were French citizens and I cannot and will not believe that all 6 of them happened to be extreme muslim fundamentalists -> in that case they wouldn't be released anyway. - we had to take of our shoes to pass through security. And we didn't mind. But hiding a bomb up your arse ? Come on... And journalists make their money with their jobs, not by smuggling petty amounts of drugs. - why were they sent back ? Customs did a 'thorough' search on (and 'in') them. Did they 'find' a reason to repatriate all 6 of them ? - why weren't the customs people 'jumpy' towards the rest of the journalists on those flights (e.g. myself and my 2 colleagues) ? Were they 'just doing their job' ? Come on... who are we kidding ?
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Posted on 04:51, May 24th 2003
Shivers6

Shivers6

I understand that, iand agree but if they were tipped off for what ever reason then do0ing their duty would be to investigate. now if this was some custom guy that said he you you look suspicious and then put them through that well i would agree then it is not a good system, but i will not believe that they were just piced becouse they were french, i believe they were tipped off , by who? intelligence? or the guy on the corner? i dont know. but the question is is they had no idea who they were? so they prolly got tipped off some how. like i said i have no idea and we may never know why they chose them, other than if people make a big deal and then they have to prove why they did it.
Now i agree with you all theyway but we must look on bothsides of the picture. We live in america, we have freedom of choice and speech, we are a free society, and this is why people are worried about the french, and why there needs to be an investigation i hope that if there is some unfainess due for them they should get it...but now days. we need to be on our toes. becouse if we are not. well all i can say is if something happpens every one always points the finger at the goverment....we hate them..but in reality we need them.

ok enouph spouting here, all i really mean to say is for ev eryone to take a deep breath. and try not to cry wolf. Customs is doomed if they do doomed if they dont...but thats what America is. and how scandles are found out. i hope there is no more casulties from customs but like in war. it is inevitable. and right now we are in a war. wether we like to admit it or not.
I understand that, iand agree but if they were tipped off for what ever reason then do0ing their duty would be to investigate. now if this was some custom guy that said he you you look suspicious and then put them through that well i would agree then it is not a good system, but i will not believe that they were just piced becouse they were french, i believe they were tipped off , by who? intelligence? or the guy on the corner? i dont know. but the question is is they had no idea who they were? so they prolly got tipped off some how. like i said i have no idea and we may never know why they chose them, other than if people make a big deal and then they have to prove why they did it. Now i agree with you all theyway but we must look on bothsides of the picture. We live in america, we have freedom of choice and speech, we are a free society, and this is why people are worried about the french, and why there needs to be an investigation i hope that if there is some unfainess due for them they should get it...but now days. we need to be on our toes. becouse if we are not. well all i can say is if something happpens every one always points the finger at the goverment....we hate them..but in reality we need them. ok enouph spouting here, all i really mean to say is for ev eryone to take a deep breath. and try not to cry wolf. Customs is doomed if they do doomed if they dont...but thats what America is. and how scandles are found out. i hope there is no more casulties from customs but like in war. it is inevitable. and right now we are in a war. wether we like to admit it or not.
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Posted on 07:04, May 24th 2003
goeroezeboe (old)

goeroezeboe (old)

haha, whats wrong with having the customs having a laugh. I bet the frencies screamed like piggies ;)

just kidding, If there truly was no reason for there investigation no doubt those dudes will be sued in the next couple of days.
haha, whats wrong with having the customs having a laugh. I bet the frencies screamed like piggies ;) just kidding, If there truly was no reason for there investigation no doubt those dudes will be sued in the next couple of days.
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Posted on 11:39, May 24th 2003
goeroezeboe (old)

goeroezeboe (old)

to be honest, i like the french much more then the Belgians, at least they say hi when you meet them on the street. Here they always seem afraid that you might try to rob them.
They are just proud to be french, whats wrong with that?
to be honest, i like the french much more then the Belgians, at least they say hi when you meet them on the street. Here they always seem afraid that you might try to rob them. They are just proud to be french, whats wrong with that?
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Posted on 13:54, May 24th 2003
Speed

Speed

The French are frogs. I have to work with Frenchies and if you want something done, it takes 25000 signatures for approval and after that they'll just start discussing again.
They talk a lot, but working ? Hell no !
Lazy bastards.
The French are frogs. I have to work with Frenchies and if you want something done, it takes 25000 signatures for approval and after that they'll just start discussing again. They talk a lot, but working ? Hell no ! Lazy bastards.
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Posted on 14:20, May 24th 2003
goeroezeboe (old)

goeroezeboe (old)

right, maby thats why i love them :o
right, maby thats why i love them :o
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Posted on 14:57, May 24th 2003
vinnycentral (old)

vinnycentral (old)

comments are to big to read but imo we have no indication whatsoever why they were send back.
comments are to big to read but imo we have no indication whatsoever why they were send back.
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Posted on 21:34, May 24th 2003
 

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